Pretzel Rolls #1

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We’re having bratwurst for dinner so I thought I would try out some pretzel rolls. I meant to put some starter in the dough, but I measured out the wrong flour/water amounts.

I mixed these up this morning and put them in the fridge around 10 for baking right before dinner time. I shaped them about the same size as the sausages, thinking after they rise they’ll be the right size. And if not… who cares!

These were really good, but could be a little softer/fluffier. I think the starter would have helped. Maybe a little smaller too (especially if I make them fluffier).

 

Total Formula
Ingredient % grams
flour 100.00 375.00
water 60.00 225.00
yeast 2.00 7.50
brown sugar 1.67 6.26
butter 3.78 14.18
salt 2.80 10.50
TOTAL 170.25 638.44


Sourdough Pretzels #2

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These turned out great. Still couldn’t taste any sourdough. I was worried I cut out too much yeast, but I think they rose just enough.

I made sure to keep them in the lye dip for 15 seconds and let them drain on a rack before putting on the baking sheet. I was going to grease the parchment but forgot. They didn’t stick too much though.

Next time I might try to let the dough rise a little before shaping to see what kind of difference it makes.

The amounts below are for 4 pretzels.

Total Formula Starter Final Dough
Ingredient % grams % grams grams
bread flour 100.00 250.00 100.00 37.50 212.50
water 55.00 137.50 100.00 37.50 100.00
active dry yeast 0.50 1.25 1.25
100% hydration starter 75.00
brown sugar 1.67 4.18 4.18
unsalted butter 3.78 9.45 9.45
kosher salt 2.80 7.00 7.00
TOTAL 163.75 409.38


Sourdough Pretzels #1

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baked from frozen – 400° for about 8 minutes

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I decided not to try to replace the yeast in this recipe with sourdough starter. I just replaced some of the flour and water with starter to give the pretzels a little sourdough flavor. It’s been way too long since I made pretzels. These are getting the par-bake treatment and going in the freezer.

These turned out delicious, very soft and fluffy inside and a nice brown crust (on the fully baked ones at least). I’m not sure how much the starter contributed to the rise, if at all, but these could use less yeast. If I were making pretzel rolls this yeast amount would be good, but I like my pretzels chewier than this. Next time I might use half, and more starter. They didn’t taste like sourdough at all.

1 tbsp brown sugar
2 tbsp softened unsalted butter
2 tbsp active dry yeast
200 g sourdough starter
355 g warm water
665 g flour (I used about half bread flour this time)
1 tbsp + 1/2 tsp kosher salt

Notes:

  1. Use less yeast next time – half? Maybe try a half batch using only starter, no yeast.
  2. Use more starter
  3. Use all bread flour
  4. 6 to a pan is too many – they touched and stuck together. Try 4 next time. Maybe make half a recipe and make 8 smaller pretzels.
  5. Dip longer in the lye solution. I basically just dipped them in for a few second.
  6. After lye dip, place on rack to dry slightly before placing on fresh sheet with oil sprayed parchment.

Lye dip notes:

  1. definitely don’t need 10 cups of solution
  2. use a plastic or glass container that is wide enough to put both hands/pretzel in, and deep enough that any splashes will be contained.
  3. make just enough solution for pretzels to be fully submerged. (1 part lye to 20 parts water, by volumn)
  4. turn on vent fan

I started a spreadsheet of baker percentage calculations and formulas for more testing. I also bought a 100g x 0.01g scale for small measurements and I’ll use grams for all measurements from now on. I think I will do a side by side test of 100% sourdough and sourdough/yeast blend, 4 pretzels each.

Original Recipe

Resource for adapting yeast recipes for sourdough starter



Sourdough Baguettes

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Recipe from Breadtopia

Replaced the poolish with starter. Added slightly more yeast than called for, since I wasn’t sure how active my starter was. I let them rise in the baguette pan instead of transferring them. I probably didn’t let them rise long enough before I baked them. I think that because I used sourdough starter in them I should have doubled the amount of time between each step, but I didn’t because I still used some yeast.

The crumb looks good and they taste good! That’s all that really matters I suppose.

UPDATE 3.31.16: Made these again Easter morning for appetizers (pea pesto crostini) and they turned out a bit better. I used starter to replace the poolish again, but I also added some yeast to it. I didn’t do that last time. I think last time I baked them with the baguette pan on top of a half sheet pan, and this time I just put the baguette pan on the oven rack. Better rise.

Poolish (night before)
1 g (1/4 tsp) instant yeast
125 g (1/2 cup) warm water
125 g (1 cup) unbleached all purpose or French T55 flour

Next Morning (3.5 – 4 hours, plus 1 hour cooling time)
300 g (2 1/3 cup) unbleached all purpose or French T55 flour
5 g (1tsp) salt
1 g (1/4 tsp) instant yeast
140 g (1/2 cup plus 1 Tbs.) warm water

Mix poolish with remaining ingredients, into a rough ball. Let rest for 10 minutes.
Stretch and fold dough in bowl every 10 minutes, 4 times.
Proof 1 hour.
Punch down dough. Divide into 3 equal pieces.
Shape into rolls: Flatten and stretch, fold long ends toward middle. Fold over top, then bottom.
Let rest, seam side down, 15 minutes. Cover with damp towel.
Flatten slightly. Fold top 1/3 towards middle, then roll over the rest of the way. Roll out to get desired length. Place on greased pan and let rise 1 hour, until doubled.
Preheat oven to 475°. Score loaves and baked with a steam tray underneath for 15 minutes.
Let cool 1 hour before slicing.



Country Bread #2

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Well, this one came out a little funny looking, but it tastes good.

I skipped the whole wheat flour this time and let it rise a bit longer. Tried baking it on a cookie sheet on top of the pizza stone with a steam tray underneath. The top cooked before it had a chance to expand, so it started expanding from the bottom.

Maybe the problem last time was that I let the dutch oven heat up too long. I think next time I’ll make baguettes



Sourdough Pizza Dough

Recipe from kingarthurflour.com

I mixed this up using some of my extra starter. I didn’t add additional yeast and I added 1 tablespoon of olive oil. It’s in the fridge to rise/rest. I’ll make pizza this weekend, hopefully.

02.13.16 – I made a pizza last night and it was ok but not great. I may need to let my pizza stone heat up longer. The cheese was browned before the crust was able to get much color. I think I should also increase the hydration level of the dough. I’ll try the breadtopia recipe next time.



Tartine’s Country Bread

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the folding process

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shaped into a ball

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shaped into a ball

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proofing

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my poor dutch oven

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Made half the recipe to make one loaf instead of two.

I thought I killed it – I turned the oven on to warm up a little while the dough was rising, then forgot about it until it beeped to tell me it was 200 degrees in there!

I let the oven/dutch oven heat up too long and it was really smoky. This loaf could have used another 10 (?) minutes in the oven. The bottom crust was incredibly hard. Not sure how to fix that. Maybe I’ll just use the pizza stone next time and a steam tray. Baking sheet on top of the pizza stone? I also need to work on my “scoring” skills.

I’m daydreaming about making sourdough pretzels now. I always get ahead of myself. I should get this recipe down before I start tweaking others.

Link: Tartine’s Country Bread



Breadtopia’s Sourdough Waffles

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Recipe from Breadtopia

These were good. I could definitely taste the sourdough. I made a half recipe and it made 4 waffles. Curious how they would be as pancakes.

I like that all you have to do in the morning is heat up the waffle iron and whisk in a couple things.

Even this guy liked them.

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yes, we wear christmas pjs all winter around here

02.13.16 – Made these again this morning. Added more brown sugar (doubled) but couldn’t really taste it. These were more sour than the last batch. I don’t think they were a hit with my family. Wish I hadn’t made a full batch. I’ll need to find something else to do with excess starter.



Sourdough Starter: Leaven

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I moved on to the next step of the Tartine recipe, and instead of tossing the rest of the starter I’m going to make sourdough waffles tomorrow morning.

Link: Tartine’s Country Bread



Sourdough Starter: Day 10

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before feeding

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before feeding

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after feeding

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after feeding

It’s very active. I’m really looking forward to baking some sourdough!

Link: Tartine’s Country Bread